In an interview with New York Magazine, Eva Longoria shared how she starts her day running for exercise, and the next stop after that is usually meditation.

“Everything is about balance,” she told the magazine. “I think people waste more time than they think. They think ‘I don’t have time to meditate, or I don’t have time to work out,’ and yet they have time to be on Instagram for 30 minutes — like, that could have been their meditation session. You have to prioritize your time and efforts toward wellness.”

She also admits she struggles to find time to meditate herself, and if she can do it three or four times per week she feels successful. Longoria told the magazine meditation is also a form of prayer, and that prayer itself is also a form of meditation.

“It’s focusing your mind on a higher power,” she said in the interview. “Some people think that meditating is chanting a mantra, but there are so many other things. You can meditate on a problem, you can meditate on love, there are so many different meanings. Sometimes people try to define meditation so strictly that it scares people away from it.”

Longoria also shared she has a bachelor’s degree in kinesiology, “which is the study of the body, the study of how things affect you — like lack of sleep, stress, and so on, so I’ve been pretty cognizant of wellness my entire life.”